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SMS using radio through Openspot not working

asked 2018-02-28 00:02:50 +0200

WA6NQW gravatar image

updated 2018-02-28 00:34:27 +0200

I am trying to get SMS messaging to work using a radio, through an Openspot, but it isn't working. If I try to send the message echo at private contact 262993 using the Openspot's web interface, it works as expected -- I get the return message back just fine. But if I try to send with a radio through the Openspot, the radio just hangs, saying "sending", and then eventually gives up with a "send failed" message. Looking at the Openspot's status page, I see the message did in fact send, and an answer was received, but it never got through to the radio. It seems the radio is waiting for an acknowledgement that the message was sent, never gets it, and never gets the return message, even though the Openspot sees both the outgoing and return messages.

This is happening with a GD-77, MD-2017, and AT868, so I don't think it is some problem peculiar to a specific radio.

The Openspot is otherwise working as expected, for voice comms.

I'm not sure where the hangup might be. Any ideas? Thanks.

PS: the "Intercept Network Messages" box is NOT checked when attempting this with the radio. Also, I have tried both "ESTI" and "Chinese Radio" settings in self-care for the OpenSpot, to no avail.

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answered 2018-03-25 22:38:59 +0200

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After working with this for a while, the problem seems to be that there is a traffic collision between the radio trying to confirm the message was sent, and the network sending a confirmation -- both the radio and the Openspot are trying to transmit at the same time, which of course won't work. The solution, such as it is, is to turn off message confirmation in the radio's CPS. Also self-care for the radio's ID needs to be set to "Chinese Radio". Also, for the 868, I have to turn off the secondary channel feature, and for the MD-2017, I need to mute the channel other than the Openspot. Having done these things, SMS messaging does work, though it is still unreliable -- does not work all the time.

I imagine the handshaking between radio and base would work better through a true duplex repeater, but sadly there are no Brandmeister repeaters within range of where I live (Washington state).

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Once again: BM uses its own SMS sender to send messages and it’s not familiar to SMS sender embedded to OpenSpot. In other words: sending SMS via OpenSpot’s web interface is not the same as sending SMS via BM. BM’s vendor setting doesn’t affect to OpenSpot web interface and API.

R3ABM gravatar imageR3ABM ( 2018-03-25 23:09:07 +0200 )edit

answered 2018-03-01 05:27:15 +0200

n8lbv gravatar image

Can you send an SMS directly from the openspot to the radio?
I'm not that familiar with openspot.
Am hoping to get one soon.

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Yes, there is a tab on the Openspot's web interface for doing that, and it works as expected. You can send an SMS from the web interface to your own radio, or to any other on the network.

WA6NQW gravatar imageWA6NQW ( 2018-03-01 15:03:23 +0200 )edit

Are you making any progress with this? Please come back and update either way.

n8lbv gravatar imagen8lbv ( 2018-03-03 10:01:05 +0200 )edit

So far, no. I don't know whether the problem is with Brandmeister, Openspot's connection to Brandmeister, or the Openspot's or the radio's configuration. Unfortunately Washington doesn't (as yet) have any Brandmeister affiliated repeaters, at least not anywhere near me, so I can't test that way.

WA6NQW gravatar imageWA6NQW ( 2018-03-03 15:06:00 +0200 )edit

Thanks for the update. I indend do get and Openspot and do this in the future and assumed it just worked! :) So I'd like to see how this works out. This would seem to be a basic common and popular function that works and not just something that you alone are doing or trying to do.

n8lbv gravatar imagen8lbv ( 2018-03-04 00:05:01 +0200 )edit

Try this: Send a wx or metar command to 262993 like: metar karb or wx 48105

n8lbv gravatar imagen8lbv ( 2018-03-04 00:05:58 +0200 )edit

answered 2018-02-28 05:07:19 +0200

R3ABM gravatar image

Self-care setting affects only the behavior of BrandMeister server and cannot not affect behavior of end-point hardware such as OpenSpot. So please keep back selfcare setting. OpenSpot guys are on this site too, so I guess they respond you. :)

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